If you have ever read any of my books (, followed me for any length of time you have probably heard me reference my spiritual father many times. His name is Pj McClure and today he is joining on the podcast to address a lie I believed for a long time, I’ll never get through this. 

This lie, I’ll never get through this, is a lie I believed because I was quite frankly an emotional mess. Most of the time it was because of my past and my trauma. Pj came alongside me so many years to walk me through my emotional mess. He helped me sort through what was true and what was a lie.


You will get an inside look at how Pj helped me, the discussions we had, how to apply them to your life, and much more. Interviewing him was so special because it was our first time doing something like this together. This inside look goes deep and it goes personal.

He opens up on lie #28 about what it means to have a spiritual father, how we met, and how I used to be in my 20’s. It’s a look at my life like you have never heard, read, or seen before. In lie #29 we continue to go further into the lie I’ll never get through this with more stories and practical guidance from Pj.

I pray this encourages your heart and reminds you that you will get through this and be stronger for it. The stories are so special to me. I’m rooting for you and praying for you as you listen to this episode. Maybe you find yourself in my story or maybe you are encouraged to continue to seek healing. I pray Pj’s word encourage your heart to remind you how strong you really are.

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